Ahhhh yes, I left a car dealership after being treated rudely by the salesmen. I felt a little better when I saw the kickstand on my Triumph had sunk 2 to 3 inches into their newly black topped lot. I try to park with the kickstand in the gutter on the concrete. Or maybe use a flattened pop can. Heck, they even sell little pads, but I don't like carrying them in my pocket. Jevers