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Hello Scr friends!

I don't know if you feel the same as i do but i find my SCR very uncomfortable on bad roads. I live in Belgium and i must confess that, in my area, the roads in the countryside are not in excellent conditions! I didn't notice that with my other bike, honda crosstourer ( a flying carpet!) but with the Yamaha, it's quite obvious. By riding it, i must be very attentive and always ready to lift up my ass with my thighs in order to soften the schocks!
So, first, i'm planning to change the inside of the saddle. I have been in contact with a little company in my area, doing, as it seems, great job for saddles at fair price. https://www.lasellerie.be . A friend of mine had his bike saddle changed by this guy and was very happy with the quality of the job.
He replaces the original foam by a gel layer and a new foam layer. He promises great cushion effect. He can keep the original covering (if enough material) or put a new one with beautiful and custom design. The prices are approximatively between 200 and 300 euros (240 and 360 us dollars) depending on the work to do. I called him yesterday, he explained i should bring the saddle in april ( not necessary the whole bike) and i would receive the new saddle after 1 week. I'm still thinking about it but i think, i will do it!
If, in spite of that, i'm still not happy with the suspension, i will then replace the 2 rear schocks by öhlins ones! But that's an other budget!
So, my question, is your back also hurting when riding the Scr on bad roads ??? Did you find another solution?
Marc ( from Belgium)
 

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Please, don't think i'm not happy with my SCR! It's a great bike, it gives me a "Banana" on my face when riding it, i mean a big smile and a big riding pleasure all way long!
 

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Hello Scr friends!

I don't know if you feel the same as i do but i find my SCR very uncomfortable on bad roads. I live in Belgium and i must confess that, in my area, the roads in the countryside are not in excellent conditions! I didn't notice that with my other bike, honda crosstourer ( a flying carpet!) but with the Yamaha, it's quite obvious. By riding it, i must be very attentive and always ready to lift up my ass with my thighs in order to soften the schocks!
So, first, i'm planning to change the inside of the saddle. I have been in contact with a little company in my area, doing, as it seems, great job for saddles at fair price. https://www.lasellerie.be . A friend of mine had his bike saddle changed by this guy and was very happy with the quality of the job.
He replaces the original foam by a gel layer and a new foam layer. He promises great cushion effect. He can keep the original covering (if enough material) or put a new one with beautiful and custom design. The prices are approximatively between 200 and 300 euros (240 and 360 us dollars) depending on the work to do. I called him yesterday, he explained i should bring the saddle in april ( not necessary the whole bike) and i would receive the new saddle after 1 week. I'm still thinking about it but i think, i will do it!
If, in spite of that, i'm still not happy with the suspension, i will then replace the 2 rear schocks by öhlins ones! But that's an other budget!
So, my question, is your back also hurting when riding the Scr on bad roads ??? Did you find another solution?
Marc ( from Belgium)
Hey Man, welcome! Well, most everything about it was uncomfortable. That has changed. Im fine on it now... even the seat. except for the footpeg placement. Dont really ride on bad roads. But yea its not a cadillac! lol
 

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For under 40 euros, I was able to install some I found on eBay and put the stock cover back on.
In over a year of riding, it's been great.
=)
 

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I must be weird, because I love the foot position and think the seat is not at all bad. It's firm, but supportive. It's SO much better than an 80's Honda seat. My V65 Magna seat was miserable for any length of time, I'd sink down in the padding until my butt was on the irregular plastic seat pan underneath. The Corbin I bought to replace it wasn't any better. It was extremely firm, and had a rise in the center right where my balls connect, and that was uncomfortable in a whole different way. BUT even that was better than the Mustang or Travelcade seats of the era, which were also horrible, but in different ways.

Honda made the same kind of seat that the Magna had on all their Nighthawks and Shadows from the 80s as well. Absolute crap!

So yeah, I dig the SCR950's seat. It's not perfect, but it's no 80's Honda seat. :p

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I must be weird, because I love the foot position and think the seat is not at all bad.
I agree Charles. Peg placement is what I'm used to, and the seat is ok, but maybe crowned just a little too much. My problem is more with the seat that I was born with..... My natural padding has compressed and is pretty much nonexistent. So I find that circulation to my lower extremities occasionally requires me to stand up on the pegs and do some mobile calestetics. I also switch to the passenger pegs for a complete change in posture. That might not be an option for the long limbed riders.
 

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While on a 200 mile ( half of that was on gravel, btw, for those of you who have not taken your SCR down a relatively smooth gravel road, it is an absolute BLAST!) ride yesterday,
I came to the realization that
SCR_tum is the first 3 letters of a particular body part that can suffer from the oddly shaped seat and a rather harsh suspension.
I am 6'2" at 230 lbs and I find the footpegs a little cramped, but they are actually placed very well. I came into a gravel 15mph corner a little hot (30mph) for me (I'm 54, fer cripes sakes). Anywho, I forgot that I wasn't riding my XR650 when I put my foot down and jammed my leg hard. I forgot how low the SCR's pegs are. You can easily slip your foot off the peg as you corner (sideways btw) and right back on to grab another gear.
When I first rode this bike, I immediately turned around and adjusted the handlebars up and continued the inaugural ride. I got to the point where I had gone back and turned around again! This time I put them back to stock and I adapted to the flat track type setting of the bars. I like 'em! Been looking for a retro crossbar pad...
The suspension is harsh with the short travel, but it is a low sitting bike. With that said, it kinda forces you to pay sharp attention to the road. She will give you a harsh reminder when you hit a bump and your back is sore for a week (54, remember?)!
I used to think to myself when I met a fellow rider standing on the pegs while going through a town,
"look at this idiot, sit down!" until I started riding dual sports for long distances. I guess I'm my own idiot, cuz I stand up on the pegs every chance I get at 40mph and under.
In short, actually, in long, I have a bad back and this thing doesn't make it any better physically, but that banana I'm wearing for a smile is a tribute to how much enjoyment I get out of riding/showing her! jevers
 

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I found it uncomfortable too, and I don't find sport bikes uncomfortable LOL.
Anyway, the footpegs are in the perfect location for the seat and handlebar, never caught my shins till I dod a bolt seat/fender swap, then I caught it just 1-2 times so far in 2500 miles (and 8 weeks).
 

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I'm at 14k miles and will say the stock seat has become a lot more comfortable over time, but I could still see some improvements being made. If I go a weekend without riding then I find on Monday my legs (especially my calves) cramping a bit because of the peg position, but I've remedied that recently by sitting a little further back and placing the balls of my feet on the peg. I'm just shy of 5'8" and this puts my knee just behind the air filter, too.
 

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If the SCR950 causes you leg cramps, friend, don't ever ride a CX500 or a 500 ninja. I'm 5'9" and my EX500 seat-to-peg ratio is the most cramped of any bike I own. Even the 250 ninja I had for a while was better. The SCR950 is positively the most roomy bike I've ever owned. What bikes have more/better legroom and still mid controls?

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I can take the cramped feel of a sport bike, Inherently a fetal position is very comfy at high speeds IMHO. The sit up and beg hurts other than cruising, however the handlebar of the SCR prevents the true "beg" by putting you in a "sail" position which hurts the low back less.
Most uncomfortable bike @ speeds IMHO is the nighthawk 700 (of the ones I have ridden) but just seat and seat alone - the SCR takes the cake. Too hard, too flat, too slippery and oddly too sticky as you slide. Its almost like its saying - I'm not gonna give you cushioning, I'm not gonna let gravity give you cradling, I'm not gonna give you any grip, and when you slide and pick up speed, I'll suddenly grab your pants and give you a wedgie.
Seriously, that seat man … that seat …
Cover or foam and cover would have made no difference.
The Hagerman bike had a curved seat that may have cradled you a little …
The stock is like dipping a 2X4 in rubberized dip and strapping it onto the rear bumper of a car and running 100mph down the road narrow side up.
 

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Yeah, I just don't have the same experience. I find the SCR very comfortable, even before I put the deflector screen on. The seat is better than the 80s Honda seats I'm used to, the position is just about perfect for me, and I can (and have) ridden it all day with only minor butt discomfort after 4 hours in the saddle. It fits me like no other bike I've ever owned. I unsderstand that it doesn't fit you though. I hope you can mod it to your liking, so that it works better for you!

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If the SCR950 causes you leg cramps, friend, don't ever ride a CX500 or a 500 ninja. I'm 5'9" and my EX500 seat-to-peg ratio is the most cramped of any bike I own. Even the 250 ninja I had for a while was better. The SCR950 is positively the most roomy bike I've ever owned. What bikes have more/better legroom and still mid controls?

Charles
Oh, by no means is this a serious complaint, just after few days off the bike I have some discomfort for the first 10-15min of riding. Personally I think that if I could get the bars just an inch closer to me then I would have a very ergonomic riding position. As is though, 1-2hr rides are no sweat.
 

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I can take the cramped feel of a sport bike, Inherently a fetal position is very comfy at high speeds IMHO. The sit up and beg hurts other than cruising, however the handlebar of the SCR prevents the true "beg" by putting you in a "sail" position which hurts the low back less.
Most uncomfortable bike @ speeds IMHO is the nighthawk 700 (of the ones I have ridden) but just seat and seat alone - the SCR takes the cake. Too hard, too flat, too slippery and oddly too sticky as you slide. Its almost like its saying - I'm not gonna give you cushioning, I'm not gonna let gravity give you cradling, I'm not gonna give you any grip, and when you slide and pick up speed, I'll suddenly grab your pants and give you a wedgie.
Seriously, that seat man … that seat …
Cover or foam and cover would have made no difference.
The Hagerman bike had a curved seat that may have cradled you a little …
The stock is like dipping a 2X4 in rubberized dip and strapping it onto the rear bumper of a car and running 100mph down the road narrow side up.
I’m pretty sure you don’t ride in a fetal position.....where does the cord go??
Ben
 
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